Peak Oil, Peak Coal, and Beyond

goods should …
goods should defenetly be distributed more on rail. I think we have had an increase of goods on rail the past few years. The government has been investing alot in the railwaysystem these past few years. We have the largest tunnelproject for rail in europe currently. Hallandsåstunnel. It´s really a interesting project, that i can recommend looking up, it’ s even on the discoverychannel. Allthough being sparser is expensive for a small population, so it will take time to build out infrastruct

yes, but goods …
yes, but goods distribution could be more dependent on rail rather than lorry etc.. cars are not bad when you have more than 1 person in them too. In sweeden you have the advantage that land can be purchased too for direct links. In the uk a big problem is its cramped and we have awful railways that bend through the country. trains don’t go past 70mph and you have to change trains when going only 40miles or so. In some ways being sparser is better in the implementation stage.

I totally agree …
I totally agree with you, but not all of us live in britain. I live in Sweden. 4 times larger than britain 9 million people. we are wery spread out. 100% public transp does not work. the largest majority really needs their car as public trans. would never work here. Unless the population grew 10 times( witch would be devestatinng for the world) Unfortunatly we are to many people in the world. The only way to survive is to stop feeding the 3d world. Talk about catch 22… (i’m going to …)

Yes true, but I …
Yes true, but I believe those factories could build trains and track quicker than they can replace the worlds 625m and growing fleet of cars. If even a fraction of the resources used to replace this fleet every 20 or so years was used to public transport there could be a train every 5mins that moves at 200mph.

The car is still a nice idea, but in the future it should become a weekend tool. Much lighter much more efficient traffic problems in all cities will force that if oil does not.

I agree with public …
I agree with public transportation part. But it’s easy for us europeans to talk with excellent public transp. In USA and AUS it’s almost nonexistent. also, i have a 1,5 hour busride to my job. It takes 1 hour to walk, 25 min to ride a bike and 10 min to drive. what would you prefer 6 am one rainy cold wintermorning? The car is going to be needed in the near future by many people. Specially families, Until the public/personal transportation is developed.

Yes, cars take alot …
Yes, cars take alot of energy to manufacture. That is why it’s important to look at country of origin. Swedish cars are produced with electricity from 50% hydro an 50% nuclear sources. American cars almost 100% oil and coal. Chinese and korean cars are probably the worst. I would prefer cars from iceland. 100% hydro and geothermal. zero pollution.

Thats the catch 22. …
Thats the catch 22. Cars take a lot fossiel fuel to manufacture. It takes over a decade to save more than what was spent on manufacture (its why a big ‘peak oil’ speaker drives a old cadilac!)

Also the personal car in itself is a broken concept. The payload on a journey is only 85kg in a 1 tonne car. That is appalling about of weight your paying to move around for no reason. Hence public transport is the way. If you have to go personal it gonna have to be a scooter or a sleek 1 seater.

we are living in …
we are living in the dark ages. watch the BBC documentary ‘a farm for the future’ to understand why.
pay particular attention to when they mention crop yields of permaculture farming (hint, they are high, especially when in the light of it’s energy input which is close to 0). there is a possible future for humankind but it will require a massive cultural shift. the documentary is on google video in full. good luck

Everybody has an …
Everybody has an answer to everything from oil peak to alternative energy solution, but in reality they are just a bunch of parrots who have nothing but their empty words.

Part 5: And for the …
Part 5: And for the love of God, bye a more energy efficiant car. It saves a ton of energy and a ton of the enviroment. I would prefer a electric car cos it makes such a cool sound. I know ther aren’t that many yet. But until then you can drive less. There is no need to drive if the destination takes a 15 minute walk. Stop ing about peakoil, (from evil saudis i might ad), when you have abundance of energy right in your country, that you’re just waisting. there is not just one way of NRG,

Part 4: All of this …
Part 4: All of this poop can easily be made in to biogas, to fule up cars. Putting extra insulation and insulation windows is quite expensive, BUT it does wonders on your energy bill and is saved up within a couple of years. Recykling is one of the things that saves themost, both energy and nature. scandinavians recycles up to 96% of their beercans, and we love our beer. If anyone is curious how to live a sustainable life look for “hammarby sjostad” on youtube. It’s about a suburb of stockholm.

Part 3: You se …
Part 3: You se garbage as garbage. For us it’s a recourse and energy. Also instead of burning up old furniture and wood it’s quite easy to grind them down to small pieces and use i as bioenergy, heating up houses or use it to make paper. Also there are like 400 million people who are pooping every day. On top of that there are millions of pigs pooping aswell. there is a giant energy source litterally flushed down the drain.

PART 2: Secondly, …
PART 2: Secondly, imagen what would happen if every californian would have preheated their hotwater with the help of the sun, before it goes in to the waterheater. This could be done really ceasy with the help of some black gardenhozes. Imagen the gas you would save, and the amount of MONEY! Also scandinavians have heated their houses and hotwater with garbage for ages. The garbage is firstr ecycled and then burnt in a incinerator, then endless miles of pipes connects the houses and heats them.

PART 1:. wow, you …
PART 1:. wow, you guys are way to addicted to gas and coal, that it’s blinding your common sences. I mean you are WASTING your energy as if it would be ok. There are tons of easy things you can do without cutting back on your lazy lifes. to begin with the easiest: if every american would replace1 lightbulb with the energy efficiant saving bulb, 1 nuclearreactor could be shut down. Imagen what would happen if everyone would have replaced every lightbulb,

yes, that is …
yes, that is confusing, but I think there are different forces at work. Last summer I think we saw demand exceeding supply, so prices rose. Then, with the credit crunch, a lot of big investers had to raise cash in a hurry to stay solvent, and they sold oil (among other things), causing the price to plummet. Now, with the recession/depression and less economic activity, demand is down, so prices are down. Gas prices will go up whenever supply can’t meet demand.

Heinberg says we …
Heinberg says we have decades of coal — but the highest quality coal is indeed getting more expensive to mine. And burning coal is an environmental disaster — its carbon emissions are among the highest.

Chris’s Crash Course is excellent.

does everyone know …
does everyone know how ed we really are? Black shiny coal (which contains the most energy) is becoming rare. It is costing more energy to dig up the lower energy coal – which will cause electricity energy prices to continue to rise.
Type in google search – Chris Martenson – The Crash Course.
His free video talks all about energy, the economy, environment and the converging crisis that lies less than 20 years out.
Real scary stuff.

you know what is …
you know what is confusing? We entered the recession Dec. 2007, yet gas skyrocketed all the way into mid 2008. What if the recession never “set in”? Where would gas prices be now? What happens if we turn around the recession soon (doubtful) how quickly could gas prices return to $4.00+? If the economy continues to grow and speculators keep buying oil, we could see $5.00+ gas easily in the next 5 years.

It seems like …
It seems like people in these forums manage to find the best solutions on every single issue! Usually following the pattern of envoirmental rape, racism, and nuclear attack Is this representative of your country?

Allah o akbar! Fear …
Allah o akbar! Fear the might of the oil producing legions of Islam!

hahahahaha … wow
hahahahaha … wow

You claimed it …
You claimed it would never be $2.00 again.

Yes, gasoline …
Yes, gasoline prices keep going down, along with costs for many other ets. That’s what a recession does — we’re seeing deflating prices both as there’s less demand and also as big investors sell off their shares to get cash.

I filled up for …
I filled up for $1.25 this week.12/25/2008 THATS A BIT LESS THAN $2.00 A GALLON.

A big problem we …
A big problem we will be facing this year is the fact that OIL sands become cold during the winter, which makes them difficult to work with. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.